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Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.30 18:17:00 -
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Specialist Nova wrote:Alright, So i understand that as a general rule its a BIG no no to drop a rorq into a belt with the rest of the mining fleet and deploy it.
So here is my question, if you are comfortable with the system and knowing that only way anyone can get to you in your dead end system is either to log in there or to travel in, and by traveling in there will be people to spot you 3 jumps out from the designated mining area. Is it for lack of a better word ok to have the rorqual close enough to the fleet to support them with drones but yet far enough that if someone enters it can freely warp to a pos because its aligned or cloak up or jump out.
Been bouncing this idea around with in a mining community i am involved with and every one acts as if im insane.
Its not being deployed inside the belt just there to boost and tractor all the cans in
Specialist Nova wrote:True but the issue is we have 2 rorquals there, no orca because that is hard to move around safely.
I know it is considered stupid but idk maybe im just too much of a risk taker
1 Rorqual in siege in a pos giving out bonuses, another Rorqual for hauling ore that's set up for speed/cargo with highs full of tractor beams. Properly fit you can get the thing to >22s align time, and it makes ore management super easy. In the unlikely event that you manage to get caught you can just emergency jump to a beacon.
And unlike an Orca you can actually move the damned thing around easily. |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:58:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Putting 2 x Rorqual in the field, one in belt is just nuts. Well over 5b of assets to give you a marginal gain in efficiency of hauling. It's really not worth the risk.
You're not going to magically lose the one deployed in a pos, so that's safe. That just leaves your hauler out. Also your hauler can instantly jump to a cynobeacon as long as you're not dumb enough to get pointed.
2.5b isn't a very large amount of isk. Especially when a fleet is making half that in an hour. |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.04 02:26:00 -
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Clansworth wrote:As was mentioned earlier, the industrial changes are going to change the dynamic quite a bit. A MWD noctis can haul cans to a warp in point, and have some quick itty IV's hauling to the POS. That's far more work and far more accounts than just using a stupid rorqual or even a freighter. More effort, and you lose the income of 2-5 miners? Great plan~
Clansworth wrote:Specialist Nova wrote:Clansworth wrote:As was mentioned earlier, the industrial changes are going to change the dynamic quite a bit. A MWD noctis can haul cans to a warp in point, and have some quick itty IV's hauling to the POS. we are also a smaller unit, so we try to keep it as little extras as possible thats why the rorq is out there to haul for the deployed one, noctis would take away a miner. With the efficiency of the Itty IV (m-¦/minute hauled round trip), you could easily do it with the same guy. Fly out in the noctis once there is enough ore for a few itty trips, group all the cans, then fly back, pick up the itty IV, and make a few round trips, rinse, repeat. still a LOT less risky than the rorq, and unless you've got a LOT of miners, the rorq will be sitting idle most the time waiting for enough ore to haul.
Waaaaay more effort. It's better just to buy a damn rorqual.
e: Unless you're poor. Then mine for 2 hours and get yourselves a rorqual. |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.04 11:41:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Sir Marksalot wrote: Waaaaay more effort. It's better just to buy a damn rorqual.
e: Unless you're poor. Then mine for 2 hours and get yourselves a rorqual.
Is there some new mineral that gets you 1.25b an hour that I don't know about?
Friends/alts.
Unless I'm mistaken and this topic is about solo mining or something. |
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